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May 30, 2019

Episode 125: Polar has been a leader in heart rate technology for several decades now. One of the largest GPS watch brands on the market, we are pleased to announce we now import from Polar directly into Final Surge. Tom Fowler is the president of Polar, a former professional triathlete Tom discusses workouts with Mark Allen, a horrifying accident he had and we do talk about some new things Polar is doing like Power on the watch with no third device.

:55 Who is Tom Fowler, what was his business background before he started working with Polar as President

2:25 With all those athletic business connections, what is your athletic background?

4:31 You mentioned you raced against Mark Allen, what was it like in the 80’s racing on the triathlon circuit?

8:10 What was the most memorable sessions with Mark Allen?

13:00 Story about Scott and Allen competing in the pool on workout days

15:25 If they were doing it without technology, then do you really need technology?

19:49 Heart rate, distance, and pace, power. How much are you adding in power and what are your thoughts on it?

23:55 I saw Polar is tracking power to the watch itself with Vantage V, how does that work?

27:18 Have you taken the Stryd and Vantage on a run and compare the results?

29:50 What other metrics will your power measure?

31:20 What else does Polar have coming out?

34:17 How is heart rate accuracy between wrist and chest strap?

37:30 Great story about an injury that almost ended his athletic career


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Tom on Instagram


Polar Vantage V Video:

May 23, 2019

Episode 124: We welcome back Olympian Kim Conley to the Final Surge Podcast. Kim has had a rough time with injuries since she last joined us before her marathon debut. She is back on the track now and we discuss what her plans are for the 2020 Olympic year.

:40 Last time we had you on we were talking about you doing your first marathon. With the Olympics in 2020 just a year away, what are your plans?

1:55 What type of injuries did you go through?

2:20 How long will you be at altitude training?

2:32 What are you going to be focussing on in the immediate future?

3:09 In 2016 you went after both the 10k and the 5k, will that be the plan again?

4:04 You recently raced at Payton Jordan and I want to read an Instagram post you did right after the race.   “ I spent some time pulling the field along last night in the 5000m, but my indecisiveness to push the pace from the front also reminded me that I have additional elements to address as I rediscover my racing identity." What do you mean by this?

5:54 Do you think the reason was gameplan or because of the time you missed that you didn't finish like you wanted?

6:35 Are you making progress towards getting your competitive edge back?

7:17 How often are you getting up to altitude for training?

7:35 A lot of everyday runners go through injury issues too, what advice do you have to them for coming back from an injury?

8:55 How long did it feel like it took for your fitness to come back?

9:53 How hard is it mentally to come back and know you are not where you used to be?

10:52 Do you have a group you are training with?

11:17 What do you think of the new Olympic standards in place?

12:12 Has it changed your training at all?

13:00 What would you like to see as a selection process for the US?

14:25 How is your training changed coming back from injury?

15:06 What different rehab/prehab exercises are you doing?

15:25 Tell us about the new book about you called The Underdog

16:27 How involved in the process have you been?


Episode 28 with Kim Conley from 2016
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Kim Website

May 14, 2019

Episode 123: Joey Berriatua is one of the up and coming young guns of the Tinman Elite Group. Joey has an interesting story. Joey is the son of a former baseball player who got a pretty late start in the track and field world. Joey has been an underdog since he started and has defied the odds to go on and become a member of one of the hottest teams around. We talk about his road to where he is today and what it is like being part of the Tinman group. 


:45 Story about impact of Tinman group and youth

1:45 How has the experience of being part of Tinman been?

3:25 How you got into running

6:07 Do you remember what your time was in 8th grade? Didn't break 5 until 11th grade

7:10 What was your progression like in cross country when you didn't run track in high school?

10:44 When you were a Junior and made the decision to quit baseball and run track how did your dad react to that?

13:04 How did the first year of track your junior year go?

13:54 What was your training like going into your junior track season?

15:05 When you went 4:23 as a junior did any colleges start showing interest?

17:20 What was the biggest change between running in high school and running in college?

18:45 Did you think of yourself as a cross country runner who did track to stay in shape or the other way around?

19:53 When you were at Santa Clara talk about your involvement in the basketball games

22:30 How did you end up making the connection to the Tinman team post-college?

 25:32 What event are you going to be focusing on?

26:25 Do you think Steeple is one of those events that gets neglected that kids could focus on and gain attention?

28:07 How hard was the hurdling part to learn for you?

29:00 When did you start with Tinman and how is the training going?

31:00 What has been the hardest part to adapt to since moving to Boulder and joining Tinman?

32:33 You are posting runs often on Instagram, how many guys are in the group now? 

34:25 What is something you have learned you can share with young high school runners to help them?

Final Surge round, 5 questions in under a minute

Favorite endurance/running book? -  The Perfect Mile
Current trainers you are wearing? -   Addidas Solar Boost
Favorite race? – Steeple
Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? – Oatmeal with peanut butter, banana and strawberries
Your favorite workout – Long Run

Joey on Twitter
Joey on Instagram


May 5, 2019

Episode 122: Jason Fitzgerald joins us again to talk about strength training, the differences between lifting for endurance and speed and the importance of the glutes. We also talk about how he would periodize a strength program.

1:02 Strength running podcast - We discuss his new podcast

1:47 Why strength training is not cross training. It is part of what we need to do.

3:25 Distance runners want to be light and fast, so what concerns are there with getting into the weight room.

6:05 When should a runner lift, workout day, recovery day or does it not matter?

8:00 If working out on your workout day do you recommend after or before your run?

9:28 What is the difference between lifting for endurance or lifting for speed?

11:18 I hear Meb talking about trap bar deadlift a lot, what are you incorporating as part of your weight routine?

13:55 How many days a week should endurance runners be hitting the weight room?

14:56 We tend to think of ourselves as runners instead of thinking of ourselves as athletes

16:56 Another thing you have been talking about recently is glute strength. A common thing we hear is ‘glutes not firing’ want to talk about how glutes play a big role in in our running form, mechanics, and injuries?

20:04 We are coming to the end of the spring marathon season, we have seen a great Boston race, London, and now it is time for many to start thinking about their fall marathons. I know you work with a lot of marathon runners, how much strength work do you have your marathon runners do?

23:06 When you coach a marathon runner where do you start with incorporating strength training?



Jason Fitzgerald on Episode 7
Video on lifting weights
Video on Glutes
Jason on Twitter
Jason on Instagram
Jason's Blog